Controverted PointĀkāso sanidassanoti? Theravādin:If this is so, you commit yourself to saying that space is visible material, visible object and element, and therefore, as such, is either blue-green, yellow, red, or white, is cognizable by the eye, impinges on the eye or organ of vision, enters into the avenue of sight—which you deny … .Āmantā. Substituting “space” for “visible object”, you must affirm or deny that “because of eye and space visual consciousness arises”. Ifnot, your proposition falls through. If you agree, you cannot quote any Suttanta to establish this. All that the Suttanta says is:Rūpaṁ rūpāyatanaṁ rūpadhātu nīlaṁ pītakaṁ lohitakaṁ odātaṁ cakkhuviññeyyaṁ cakkhusmiṁ paṭihaññati cakkhussa āpāthaṁ āgacchatīti? “Because of eye and visible object visual consciousness arises”.Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe….

as you agree. Hence you must either call space visible object (with its properties), or fail to maintain your position.Ākāso sanidassanoti? Andhaka:If I am wrong, you must nevertheless admit that you “see” the interval between two trees or two posts, the space in a keyhole or in a window. Surely then space is visible.Āmantā. Andhaka:Cakkhuñca paṭicca ākāsañca uppajjati cakkhuviññāṇanti? Shwe Zan AungNa hevaṁ vattabbe …pe….

This SuttaCentral edition was prepared byManfred WierichandVen. Vimalaand proofread byJosephine Tobin. Some changes were introduced:Cakkhuñca paṭicca ākāsañca uppajjati cakkhuviññāṇanti? Manfred WierichĀmantā. Ven. Vimala“Cakkhuñca paṭicca ākāsañca uppajjati cakkhuviññāṇan”ti—Josephine Tobinattheva suttantoti? Abbreviations, i.e., those of cited works and the participants in the controversies, were expanded.Cross-references were linked.Some typographic changes were introduced, among others, i.e.: the phonetic symbol “ŋ” was changed to the Pāli diacritical letter “ṃ”, “ô” to “o”, single quotes to double quotes, and “:—” to “:”.Letter-spacing with fixed spaces was replaced with bold font.The corrigenda were merged into the text. Some could not be resolved, though.Natthi. Abbreviations, i.e., those of cited works and the participants in the controversies, were expanded.“Cakkhuñca paṭicca rūpe ca uppajjati cakkhuviññāṇan”ti—Cross-references were linked.attheva suttantoti? Some typographic changes were introduced, among others, i.e.: the phonetic symbol “ŋ” was changed to the Pāli diacritical letter “ṃ”, “ô” to “o”, single quotes to double quotes, and “:—” to “:”.Āmantā. Letter-spacing with fixed spaces was replaced with bold font.Hañci “cakkhuñca paṭicca rūpe ca uppajjati cakkhuviññāṇan”ti—The corrigenda were merged into the text. Some could not be resolved, though.attheva suttanto, no ca vata re vattabbe—This electronic version is published under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial 3.0 licence (CC BY-NC 3.0) as found here:http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/“cakkhuñca paṭicca ākāsañca uppajjati cakkhuviññāṇan”ti.

All copyright is owned by the Pali Text Society. See also the statement under http://www.palitext.com/ → Publications → Copyright Announcement. For non-commercial use only.Na vattabbaṁ—“ākāso sanidassano”ti? Āmantā. Nanu passati dvinnaṁ rukkhānaṁ antaraṁ, dvinnaṁ thambhānaṁ antaraṁ, tāḷacchiddaṁ vātapānacchiddanti? Āmantā. Hañci passati dvinnaṁ rukkhānaṁ antaraṁ, dvinnaṁ thambhānaṁ antaraṁ, tāḷacchiddaṁ vātapānacchiddaṁ, tena vata re vattabbe—“ākāso sanidassano”ti.

Ākāso sanidassanotikathā niṭṭhitā.