Controverted PointArūpino dhammā arūpadhātūti? arūpaĀmantā. cognized asVedanā bhavo gati sattāvāso saṁsāro yoni viññāṇaṭṭhiti attabhāvapaṭilābhoti? Theravādin:Is then feeling a sphere of life, a destiny, a realm of beings, renewed life, a matrix, a station for rebirth-consciousness, an acquiring of individuality? Is therekarmaleading to it? Are beings to be reborn in it? Do they get old, die, decease from, get reborn in it? Are the five aggregates “in” feeling? Is it a five-mode existence?Now all these you can predicate of the Arūpa-datum or element, but not of feeling only.Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… Again, if the Arūpa-element mean only immaterial things—and you will admit there is feeling and other mental aggregates in the Kāma-element—are these two elements or data identical? Either you must deny (which were unorthodox) or assent. In the latter case we get a person in two spheres of life at the same time. The same argument holds good for Arūpa and Rūpa data. And if all three be mutually identical, we get a person in three spheres of life at the same time … .atthi vedanūpagaṁ kammanti? Shwe Zan AungNa hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… This SuttaCentral edition was prepared byManfred WierichandVen. Vimalaand proofread byJosephine Tobin. Some changes were introduced:atthi vedanūpagā sattāti? Manfred WierichNa hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… Ven. Vimalavedanāya sattā jāyanti jīyanti mīyanti cavanti upapajjantīti? Josephine TobinNa hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… Abbreviations, i.e., those of cited works and the participants in the controversies, were expanded.Cross-references were linked.Some typographic changes were introduced, among others, i.e.: the phonetic symbol “ŋ” was changed to the Pāli diacritical letter “ṃ”, “ô” to “o”, single quotes to double quotes, and “:—” to “:”.Letter-spacing with fixed spaces was replaced with bold font.The corrigenda were merged into the text. Some could not be resolved, though.vedanāya atthi vedanā saññā saṅkhārā viññāṇanti? Abbreviations, i.e., those of cited works and the participants in the controversies, were expanded.Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… Cross-references were linked.vedanā catuvokārabhavoti? Some typographic changes were introduced, among others, i.e.: the phonetic symbol “ŋ” was changed to the Pāli diacritical letter “ṃ”, “ô” to “o”, single quotes to double quotes, and “:—” to “:”.Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe…

Letter-spacing with fixed spaces was replaced with bold font.Arūpadhātu bhavo gati …pe… The corrigenda were merged into the text. Some could not be resolved, though.attabhāvapaṭilābhoti? This electronic version is published under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial 3.0 licence (CC BY-NC 3.0) as found here:http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/Āmantā. All copyright is owned by the Pali Text Society. See also the statement under http://www.palitext.com/ → Publications → Copyright Announcement. For non-commercial use only.Vedanā bhavo gati …pe… attabhāvapaṭilābhoti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… atthi arūpadhātūpagaṁ kammanti? Āmantā. Atthi vedanūpagaṁ kammanti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… atthi arūpadhātūpagā sattāti? Āmantā. Atthi vedanūpagā sattāti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe….

Arūpadhātuyā sattā jāyanti jīyanti mīyanti cavanti upapajjantīti? Āmantā. Vedanāya sattā jāyanti jīyanti mīyanti cavanti upapajjantīti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… arūpadhātuyā atthi vedanā saññā saṅkhārā viññāṇanti? Āmantā. Vedanāya atthi vedanā saññā saṅkhārā viññāṇanti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… arūpadhātu catuvokārabhavoti? Āmantā. Vedanā catuvokārabhavoti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe….

Arūpino dhammā arūpadhātu, kāmadhātuyā atthi vedanā saññā saṅkhārā viññāṇanti? Āmantā. Sāva kāmadhātu, sā arūpadhātūti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… sāva kāmadhātu, sā arūpadhātūti? Āmantā. Kāmabhavena samannāgato puggalo dvīhi bhavehi samannāgato hoti—kāmabhavena ca arūpabhavena cāti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe….

Rūpino dhammā rūpadhātu, arūpino dhammā arūpadhātu, kāmadhātuyā atthi rūpaṁ vedanā saññā saṅkhārā viññāṇanti? Āmantā. Sāva kāmadhātu, sā rūpadhātu, sā arūpadhātūti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… sāva kāmadhātu, sā rūpadhātu, sā arūpadhātūti? Āmantā. Kāmabhavena samannāgato puggalo tīhi bhavehi samannāgato hoti—kāmabhavena ca rūpabhavena ca arūpabhavena cāti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe….

Arūpadhātukathā niṭṭhitā.