Controverted PointAtthi asātarāgoti? Theravādin:Do you go so far as to maintain that of the beings who delight in the painful, some wish for it, long for it, seek, search, hunt for it, and persist in cleaving to it? Is not rather the opposite your genuine belief? You assent. Then how do you maintain your proposition?Āmantā. Can anyone have at once a latent bias of lust for painful feeling and a latent bias of aversion from pleasant feeling? Will not these two forms of bias bereallydirected inversely, the former craving pleasure, the latter hating pain?Dukkhābhinandino sattā, atthi keci dukkhaṁ patthenti pihenti esanti gavesanti pariyesanti, dukkhaṁ ajjhosāya tiṭṭhantīti? reallyNa hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… Uttarāpathaka:But if I am wrong, was it not said by the Exalted One:nanu sukhābhinandino sattā, atthi keci sukhaṁ patthenti pihenti esanti gavesanti pariyesanti, sukhaṁ ajjhosāya tiṭṭhantīti? Uttarāpathaka:Āmantā. “He, thus, expert in complacency and antipathy, delights in and commends whatsoever feeling he feels, pleasant, painful, or neutral, and persists in cleaving to it”?Hañci sukhābhinandino sattā, atthi keci sukhaṁ patthenti pihenti esanti gavesanti pariyesanti, sukhaṁ ajjhosāya tiṭṭhanti, no ca vata re vattabbe—Hence surely there is such a thing as lusting for the unpleasant?“atthi asātarāgo”ti.

Shwe Zan AungAtthi asātarāgoti? This SuttaCentral edition was prepared byManfred WierichandVen. Vimalaand proofread byJosephine Tobin. Some changes were introduced:Āmantā. Manfred WierichDukkhāya vedanāya rāgānusayo anuseti, sukhāya vedanāya paṭighānusayo anusetīti? Ven. VimalaNa hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… Josephine Tobinnanu sukhāya vedanāya rāgānusayo anuseti, dukkhāya vedanāya paṭighānusayo anusetīti? Abbreviations, i.e., those of cited works and the participants in the controversies, were expanded.Cross-references were linked.Some typographic changes were introduced, among others, i.e.: the phonetic symbol “ŋ” was changed to the Pāli diacritical letter “ṃ”, “ô” to “o”, single quotes to double quotes, and “:—” to “:”.Letter-spacing with fixed spaces was replaced with bold font.The corrigenda were merged into the text. Some could not be resolved, though.Āmantā. Abbreviations, i.e., those of cited works and the participants in the controversies, were expanded.Hañci sukhāya vedanāya rāgānusayo anuseti, dukkhāya vedanāya paṭighānusayo anuseti, no ca vata re vattabbe—Cross-references were linked.“atthi asātarāgo”ti.

Some typographic changes were introduced, among others, i.e.: the phonetic symbol “ŋ” was changed to the Pāli diacritical letter “ṃ”, “ô” to “o”, single quotes to double quotes, and “:—” to “:”.Na vattabbaṁ—Letter-spacing with fixed spaces was replaced with bold font.“atthi asātarāgo”ti? The corrigenda were merged into the text. Some could not be resolved, though.Āmantā. This electronic version is published under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial 3.0 licence (CC BY-NC 3.0) as found here:http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/Nanu vuttaṁ bhagavatā—All copyright is owned by the Pali Text Society. See also the statement under http://www.palitext.com/ → Publications → Copyright Announcement. For non-commercial use only.“so evaṁ anurodhavirodhaṁ samāpanno yaṁ kiñci vedanaṁ vedayati sukhaṁ vā dukkhaṁ vā adukkhamasukhaṁ vā, so taṁ vedanaṁ abhinandati abhivadati ajjhosāya tiṭṭhatī”ti. Attheva suttantoti? Āmantā. Tena hi atthi asātarāgoti.

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