Controverted PointPañcevāyatanā kāmāti? Thisparagraph isverbatim=Kv 8.3 =Kv 8.3 “Hence sensuality consists in only the five fields of sense-object”.Āmantā. Theravādin:But was it not also said by the Exalted One:Nanu atthi tappaṭisaṁyutto chandoti? “There are these fivefold pleasures of sense,bhikkhus: which are the five? Objects desirable,… adapted to sense-desires(kāma), and seductive are cognizable by sight, hearing, etc.… five kinds ofobjects associated withsense-pleasure. Nevertheless,bhikkhus, these are not sense-desires; they are called in the Ariyan disciplineobjects ofsense-pleasures(kāmaguṇā). Forkāmais a man's lustful intention”;Āmantā. objects associated withHañci atthi tappaṭisaṁyutto chando, no ca vata re vattabbe—objects of“pañcevāyatanā kāmā”ti. “The manifold of objects in the world—This in itself is not `desires of sense.’Lustful intention is man's sense-desires.That manifold of objects doth endure;The will thereto the wise exterminate”?Nanu atthi tappaṭisaṁyutto rāgo tappaṭisaṁyutto chando tappaṭisaṁyutto chandarāgo tappaṭisaṁyutto saṅkappo tappaṭisaṁyutto rāgo tappaṭisaṁyutto saṅkapparāgo tappaṭisaṁyuttā pīti tappaṭisaṁyuttaṁ somanassaṁ tappaṭisaṁyuttaṁ pītisomanassanti? “The manifold of objects in the world—This in itself is not `desires of sense.’Lustful intention is man's sense-desires.That manifold of objects doth endure;The will thereto the wise exterminate”?Āmantā. Hence it is wrong to say that just the five kinds of sense-objects constitute sense-desires.Hañci atthi tappaṭisaṁyuttaṁ pītisomanassaṁ, no ca vata re vattabbe—Shwe Zan Aung“pañcevāyatanā kāmā”ti.

This SuttaCentral edition was prepared byManfred WierichandVen. Vimalaand proofread byJosephine Tobin. Some changes were introduced:Na vattabbaṁ—Manfred Wierich“pañcevāyatanā kāmā”ti? Ven. VimalaĀmantā. Josephine TobinNanu vuttaṁ bhagavatā—Abbreviations, i.e., those of cited works and the participants in the controversies, were expanded.Cross-references were linked.Some typographic changes were introduced, among others, i.e.: the phonetic symbol “ŋ” was changed to the Pāli diacritical letter “ṃ”, “ô” to “o”, single quotes to double quotes, and “:—” to “:”.Letter-spacing with fixed spaces was replaced with bold font.The corrigenda were merged into the text. Some could not be resolved, though.“pañcime, bhikkhave, kāmaguṇā. Abbreviations, i.e., those of cited works and the participants in the controversies, were expanded.Katame pañca? Cross-references were linked.Cakkhuviññeyyā rūpā …pe… Some typographic changes were introduced, among others, i.e.: the phonetic symbol “ŋ” was changed to the Pāli diacritical letter “ṃ”, “ô” to “o”, single quotes to double quotes, and “:—” to “:”.kāyaviññeyyā phoṭṭhabbā iṭṭhā kantā manāpā piyarūpā kāmūpasaṁhitā rajanīyā—Letter-spacing with fixed spaces was replaced with bold font.ime kho, bhikkhave, pañca kāmaguṇā”ti. The corrigenda were merged into the text. Some could not be resolved, though.Attheva suttantoti? This electronic version is published under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial 3.0 licence (CC BY-NC 3.0) as found here:http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/Āmantā. All copyright is owned by the Pali Text Society. See also the statement under http://www.palitext.com/ → Publications → Copyright Announcement. For non-commercial use only.Tena hi pañcevāyatanā kāmāti.

Pañcevāyatanā kāmāti? Āmantā. Nanu vuttaṁ bhagavatā—“pañcime, bhikkhave, kāmaguṇā. Katame pañca? Cakkhuviññeyyā rūpā …pe… kāyaviññeyyā phoṭṭhabbā iṭṭhā kantā manāpā piyarūpā kāmūpasaṁhitā rajanīyā—ime kho, bhikkhave, pañca kāmaguṇā. Api ca, bhikkhave, nete kāmā kāmaguṇā nāmete ariyassa vinaye vuccan”ti—

“Saṅkapparāgo purisassa kāmo, Na te kāmā yāni citrāni loke; Saṅkapparāgo purisassa kāmo, Tiṭṭhanti citrāni tatheva loke; Athettha dhīrā vinayanti chandan”ti.

Attheva suttantoti? Āmantā. Tena hi na vattabbaṁ—“pañcevāyatanā kāmā”ti.

Kāmakathā niṭṭhitā.