Controverted PointRūpino dhammā rūpadhātūti? cognized asĀmantā. Theravādin:Is thenrūpaa sphere of life, a destiny, a realm of beings, renewed life, a matrix, a station for rebirth-consciousness, an acquiring of individuality? Is therekarmaleading to it, beings to be reborn in it? Do they get born, grow old, die, decease, get rebirth there? Are the five aggregates “in”rūpa? Is it a five-mode existence?Now all these you can predicate of theRūpa-datum, but not ofrūpa, or material quality. Hence the latter has not all that is implicated in the former.Rūpaṁ bhavo gati sattāvāso saṁsāro yoni viññāṇaṭṭhiti attabhāvapaṭilābhoti? Again, if theRūpa-datum consists only of material qualities—and, as you will admit, there is material quality in theKāma-datum—is this latter datum the same asRūpa-datum? You say “no”. But think.Youmust admit it is. Then we get a man in two life-spheres at the same time … .Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… Shwe Zan Aungatthi rūpūpagaṁ kammanti? This SuttaCentral edition was prepared byManfred WierichandVen. Vimalaand proofread byJosephine Tobin. Some changes were introduced:Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… Manfred Wierichatthi rūpūpagā sattāti? Ven. VimalaNa hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… Josephine Tobinrūpe sattā jāyanti jīyanti mīyanti cavanti upapajjantīti? Abbreviations, i.e., those of cited works and the participants in the controversies, were expanded.Cross-references were linked.Some typographic changes were introduced, among others, i.e.: the phonetic symbol “ŋ” was changed to the Pāli diacritical letter “ṃ”, “ô” to “o”, single quotes to double quotes, and “:—” to “:”.Letter-spacing with fixed spaces was replaced with bold font.The corrigenda were merged into the text. Some could not be resolved, though.Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… Abbreviations, i.e., those of cited works and the participants in the controversies, were expanded.rūpe atthi rūpaṁ vedanā saññā saṅkhārā viññāṇanti? Cross-references were linked.Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… Some typographic changes were introduced, among others, i.e.: the phonetic symbol “ŋ” was changed to the Pāli diacritical letter “ṃ”, “ô” to “o”, single quotes to double quotes, and “:—” to “:”.rūpaṁ pañcavokārabhavoti? Letter-spacing with fixed spaces was replaced with bold font.Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe….

The corrigenda were merged into the text. Some could not be resolved, though.Rūpadhātu bhavo gati …pe… This electronic version is published under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial 3.0 licence (CC BY-NC 3.0) as found here:http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/attabhāvapaṭilābhoti? All copyright is owned by the Pali Text Society. See also the statement under http://www.palitext.com/ → Publications → Copyright Announcement. For non-commercial use only.Āmantā. Rūpaṁ bhavo gati …pe… attabhāvapaṭilābhoti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… atthi rūpadhātūpagaṁ kammanti? Āmantā. Atthi rūpūpagaṁ kammanti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… atthi rūpadhātūpagā sattāti? Āmantā. Atthi rūpūpagā sattāti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe….

Rūpadhātuyā sattā jāyanti jīyanti mīyanti cavanti upapajjantīti? Āmantā. Rūpe sattā jāyanti jīyanti mīyanti cavanti upapajjantīti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… rūpadhātuyā atthi rūpaṁ vedanā saññā saṅkhārā viññāṇanti? Āmantā. Rūpe atthi rūpaṁ vedanā saññā saṅkhārā viññāṇanti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… rūpadhātu pañcavokārabhavoti? Āmantā. Rūpaṁ pañcavokārabhavoti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe….

Rūpino dhammā rūpadhātu, kāmadhātuyā atthi rūpanti? Āmantā. Sāva kāmadhātu, sā rūpadhātūti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… sāva kāmadhātu, sā rūpadhātūti? Āmantā. Kāmabhavena samannāgato puggalo dvīhi bhavehi samannāgato hoti—kāmabhavena ca rūpabhavena cāti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe.

Rūpadhātukathā niṭṭhitā.