Controverted PointRūpaṁ hetūti? Theravādin:Your view implies that (i.) material qualities must act as one or other of the six motives of moral or immoral conduct; (ii.) they have a mental object or idea, having the properties of mental adverting, adjustment, etc. From both of these implications you dissent, hence you cannot maintain your position.Āmantā. Indeed, you are ready to maintain the contrary of (ii.), that proposition being quite true when applied to the six moral conditions, but untrue of material qualities.Alobho hetūti? Uttarāpathaka:But are not the four primary qualities conditions of the secondary material qualities that are derived from them? Of course you assent. Hence, the four being material, material qualitiesareconditionshowever you understand “conditions”.Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… Uttarāpathaka:adoso hetu …pe… however you understand “conditions”.amoho hetu … Shwe Zan Aunglobho hetu … This SuttaCentral edition was prepared byManfred WierichandVen. Vimalaand proofread byJosephine Tobin. Some changes were introduced:doso hetu … Manfred Wierichmoho hetūti? Ven. VimalaNa hevaṁ vattabbe …pe….

Josephine TobinRūpaṁ hetūti? Abbreviations, i.e., those of cited works and the participants in the controversies, were expanded.Cross-references were linked.Some typographic changes were introduced, among others, i.e.: the phonetic symbol “ŋ” was changed to the Pāli diacritical letter “ṃ”, “ô” to “o”, single quotes to double quotes, and “:—” to “:”.Letter-spacing with fixed spaces was replaced with bold font.The corrigenda were merged into the text. Some could not be resolved, though.Āmantā. Abbreviations, i.e., those of cited works and the participants in the controversies, were expanded.Sārammaṇaṁ, atthi tassa āvaṭṭanā …pe… paṇidhīti? Cross-references were linked.Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… Some typographic changes were introduced, among others, i.e.: the phonetic symbol “ŋ” was changed to the Pāli diacritical letter “ṃ”, “ô” to “o”, single quotes to double quotes, and “:—” to “:”.nanu anārammaṇaṁ, natthi tassa āvaṭṭanā …pe… paṇidhīti? Letter-spacing with fixed spaces was replaced with bold font.Āmantā. The corrigenda were merged into the text. Some could not be resolved, though.Hañci anārammaṇaṁ, natthi tassa āvaṭṭanā …pe… paṇidhi, no ca vata re vattabbe—This electronic version is published under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial 3.0 licence (CC BY-NC 3.0) as found here:http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/“rūpaṁ hetū”ti.

All copyright is owned by the Pali Text Society. See also the statement under http://www.palitext.com/ → Publications → Copyright Announcement. For non-commercial use only.Alobho hetu sārammaṇo, atthi tassa āvaṭṭanā …pe… paṇidhīti? Āmantā. Rūpaṁ hetu sārammaṇaṁ, atthi tassa āvaṭṭanā …pe… paṇidhīti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… adoso hetu … amoho hetu … lobho hetu … doso hetu … moho hetu sārammaṇo, atthi tassa āvaṭṭanā …pe… paṇidhīti? Āmantā. Rūpaṁ hetu sārammaṇaṁ, atthi tassa āvaṭṭanā …pe… paṇidhīti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe….

Rūpaṁ hetu anārammaṇaṁ, natthi tassa āvaṭṭanā …pe… paṇidhīti? Āmantā. Alobho hetu anārammaṇo, natthi tassa āvaṭṭanā …pe… paṇidhīti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe… rūpaṁ hetu anārammaṇaṁ, natthi tassa āvaṭṭanā …pe… paṇidhīti? Āmantā. Adoso hetu … amoho hetu … lobho hetu … doso hetu … moho hetu anārammaṇo, natthi tassa āvaṭṭanā …pe… paṇidhīti? Na hevaṁ vattabbe …pe….

Na vattabbaṁ—“rūpaṁ hetū”ti? Āmantā. Nanu mahābhūtā upādāyarūpānaṁ upādāyahetūti? Āmantā. Hañci mahābhūtā upādāyarūpānaṁ upādāyahetu, tena vata re vattabbe—“rūpaṁ hetū”ti.

Rūpaṁ hetūtikathā niṭṭhitā.