Controverted Point: That things cannot be grouped together by means of abstract ideas.Natthi keci dhammā kehici dhammehi saṅgahitāti? Controverted PointĀmantā. Theravādin:But you do not also deny that any things may combine or be included with other things under a concept of totality or universality. Hence, how can you deny that they may be grouped together?The organs of senseand their objects are, you admit, computed under the material aggregateof a living individual.Pleasant, painful, or neutral feelings are computed under the aggregate of feeling.Percepts on occasion of sense and ideation come under the aggregate of perception.Volitions on occasion of sense and ideation come under the aggregate of conscious concomitants.Consciousness on occasion of sense and ideation comes under the aggregate of consciousness. Hence, by admitting these inclusions, you must admit that things may be grouped by an idea.Nanu atthi keci dhammā kehici dhammehi gaṇanaṁ gacchanti uddesaṁ gacchanti pariyāpannāti? of a living individualĀmantā. Rājagirika, Siddhatthika:Thenyouunderstand “things being grouped together by ideas” in the same way as two bullocks may be grouped together by a rope or a yoke, an alms-bowl may be held together by a suspender, a dog may be held in by a leash?Hañci atthi keci dhammā kehici dhammehi gaṇanaṁ gacchanti uddesaṁ gacchanti pariyāpannā, no ca vata re vattabbe—Rājagirika, Siddhatthika:“natthi keci dhammā kehici dhammehi saṅgahitā”ti.

Theravādin:Yes; andhence it is not less right to say that some things may be grouped together by other things (ideas).Cakkhāyatanaṁ katamakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti? Yes; andRūpakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti. Shwe Zan AungHañci cakkhāyatanaṁ rūpakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchati, tena vata re vattabbe—This SuttaCentral edition was prepared byManfred WierichandVen. Vimalaand proofread byJosephine Tobin. Some changes were introduced:“cakkhāyatanaṁ rūpakkhandhena saṅgahitan”ti. Manfred WierichSotāyatanaṁ …pe… Ven. Vimalaghānāyatanaṁ …pe… Josephine Tobinjivhāyatanaṁ …pe… Abbreviations, i.e., those of cited works and the participants in the controversies, were expanded.Cross-references were linked.Some typographic changes were introduced, among others, i.e.: the phonetic symbol “ŋ” was changed to the Pāli diacritical letter “ṃ”, “ô” to “o”, single quotes to double quotes, and “:—” to “:”.Letter-spacing with fixed spaces was replaced with bold font.The corrigenda were merged into the text. Some could not be resolved, though.kāyāyatanaṁ katamakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti? Abbreviations, i.e., those of cited works and the participants in the controversies, were expanded.Rūpakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti. Cross-references were linked.Hañci kāyāyatanaṁ rūpakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchati, tena vata re vattabbe—Some typographic changes were introduced, among others, i.e.: the phonetic symbol “ŋ” was changed to the Pāli diacritical letter “ṃ”, “ô” to “o”, single quotes to double quotes, and “:—” to “:”.“kāyāyatanaṁ rūpakkhandhena saṅgahitan”ti.

Letter-spacing with fixed spaces was replaced with bold font.Rūpāyatanaṁ …pe… The corrigenda were merged into the text. Some could not be resolved, though.saddāyatanaṁ …pe… This electronic version is published under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial 3.0 licence (CC BY-NC 3.0) as found here:http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/gandhāyatanaṁ …pe… All copyright is owned by the Pali Text Society. See also the statement under http://www.palitext.com/ → Publications → Copyright Announcement. For non-commercial use only.rasāyatanaṁ …pe… phoṭṭhabbāyatanaṁ katamakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti? Rūpakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti. Hañci phoṭṭhabbāyatanaṁ rūpakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchati, tena vata re vattabbe—“phoṭṭhabbāyatanaṁ rūpakkhandhena saṅgahitan”ti.

Sukhā vedanā katamakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti? Vedanākkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti. Hañci sukhā vedanā vedanākkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchati, tena vata re vattabbe—“sukhā vedanā vedanākkhandhena saṅgahitā”ti. Dukkhā vedanā …pe… adukkhamasukhā vedanā katamakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti? Vedanākkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti. Hañci adukkhamasukhā vedanā vedanākkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchati, tena vata re vattabbe—“adukkhamasukhā vedanā vedanākkhandhena saṅgahitā”ti.

Cakkhusamphassajā saññā katamakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti? Saññākkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti. Hañci cakkhusamphassajā saññā saññākkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchati, tena vata re vattabbe—“cakkhusamphassajā saññā saññākkhandhena saṅgahitā”ti. Sotasamphassajā saññā …pe… manosamphassajā saññā katamakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti? Saññākkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti. Hañci manosamphassajā saññā saññākkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchati, tena vata re vattabbe—“manosamphassajā saññā saññākkhandhena saṅgahitā”ti.

Cakkhusamphassajā cetanā …pe… manosamphassajā cetanā katamakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti? Saṅkhārakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti. Hañci manosamphassajā cetanā saṅkhārakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchati, tena vata re vattabbe—“manosamphassajā cetanā saṅkhārakkhandhena saṅgahitā”ti.

Cakkhuviññāṇaṁ …pe… manoviññāṇaṁ katamakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti? Viññāṇakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchatīti. Hañci manoviññāṇaṁ viññāṇakkhandhagaṇanaṁ gacchati, tena vata re vattabbe—“manoviññāṇaṁ viññāṇakkhandhena saṅgahitan”ti.

Yathā dāmena vā yottena vā dve balībaddā saṅgahitā, sikkāya piṇḍapāto saṅgahito, sā gaddulena saṅgahito; evameva te dhammā tehi dhammehi saṅgahitāti? Hañci dāmena vā yottena vā dve balībaddā saṅgahitā, sikkāya piṇḍapāto saṅgahito, sā gaddulena saṅgahito, tena vata re vattabbe—“atthi keci dhammā kehici dhammehi saṅgahitā”ti.

Saṅgahitakathā niṭṭhitā.